Something called Baseball Info Solutions (BIS) is our site's stat provider. It appears they generate their own content(?) They are Not feeding a Hold for Nicasio on April 26th. Stats Inc is also Not feeding a hold.
But mlb.com and espn.com DO both record a Hold for Nicasio on the 26th.
Hey, Is this a Hold spot? Damn thats my hand not my phone. |
Ultimately we have never varied from a ruling by our site's provider, But I would like to know that they do acknowledge their discrepancy with mlb/espn.com and can confirm why the discrepancy exists.
I assume it is because an argument can be made that Nicasio was (inherently) not able to get a save. One of the definitions of a hold is that it has to be a save situation. In this case Nicasio entered the game with the lead in the 4th inning. In order to get a Save he would have had to pitch the next 4.3 innings and hold the lead. But the reality is if he actually did that, the official scorer would certainly make him the winning pitcher. In my opinion, Nicasio never had a real chance at a save or a hold - just a win.
The Hold "statistic " has lot of quirks, oddities and inconsistencies. In my opinion, this is yet another one of them.
Im focusing on this issue not only because this decision affects a game in the standing between phinests/ballbusters on april 27th...but also to emphasize that our policy, out of simplicity, is to go with what the site offers statistically. I would like to confirm that the issue has been or is being considered.
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This below is from onroto.com, asking for patience with stat changes.
In 22 years of doing this, we've rarely gone a full week, much less a full month, without there being some errors in the stats provided by our supplier (regardless of who that supplier may be -- we currently use Baseball Info Solutions, who supplies stats to a large number of large web sites and MLB teams, etc). When errors (or changes in the official scoring) occur, they are always caught and corrected by BIS, who then notifies us. After we're notified of a change, we will then (and only then) correct the stats and standings of all our leagues. We have elaborate procedures and protocols in place for handling this.Please note that even if we had been personally present at a game and had witnessed an unforgettable performance -- like a perfect game -- that didn't show correctly in the next day's stat report, we would not make a hand correction to our stat database until after we heard from BIS. It is absolutely paramount that we keep our stat data base in synch with BIS's.
So if you run across any errors in the standing and stat reports, please don't email us about it -- we wouldn't do anything about it until we got the updated data from BIS (which we always do -- usually the next day) anyway.
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